Thursday, February 23, 2012

Is this a good vegetarian diet for 9 week old puppy?

she came home last tuesday (yay!) and we have put her on a vegetarian diet. before anyone says it's wrong, there is research out there that says dogs are ormnivores which means they don't have to eat meat... ok?





7am: oats with warm goat's milk


10am: raw carrot


1pm: scrambled eggs and cheese


3pm: half a slice of toast


6pm: more scrabled eggs, this time with peanut butter


9pm: pedigree milky biscuits





thanks|||You are completely incorrect, and you'd better feed that CARNIVOROUS canine some freakin' raw muscle meat, organ meat, and meaty bones before it dies due to malnutrition.





Dogs are canines. Canines are CARNIVORES. This is plain, simple SCIENCE. It's FACT. They have the DENTITION of a carnivore. They have the DIGESTIVE tract of a carnivore. They have the INSTINCTS of a carnivore. So stop thinking your dog is somehow an omnivore, or can survive on a vegetarian diet, and give it a species-appropriate diet.





If you are unwilling to do so, then you need to surrender your dog. And puppies most certainly do not need to eat 6 times a day. Well, with the lack of nutrition you're providing, perhaps its a good idea to keep your puppy from starvation, but you really need to take a biology course or at least open a book sometime and learn something.





Sorry, but I can't abide by ignorance all of the time - I, like any other person, have my limits too.|||Omnivore means they need vegetation AND meat. Dogs are NOT vegetarians. You need to have a long conversation with your vet about what this will do to your puppy. Like stunt her growth and cause her to be malnourished and die. Some states you can be punished for animal cruelty for doing this.





Eggs, cheese and milk are not generally part of a vegetarian diet. Pedigree biscuits are garbage. Dogs are also lactose intolerant (I know goats milk is hypoallergenic for humans but it's also very low in iron and I don't know if it's any better for dogs than cow's milk)





Dogs are unable to digest wheat, corn and soy, which is why premium dog foods are PROTEIN based with NO grains.





There is NO good vegetarian diet for any age dog, so no, your planned diet is not good for your dog and will wind up killing her very, very slowly.|||Yes, dogs can be perceived as omnivores as, back when they were wolves they used to often eat the stomach contents of their prey.





However, their main food source is meat and they cannot survive on vegetables etc alone. Their whole body is designed for the extra protein of meat and you will have one very unhealthy dog if it is only eating this.





Dogs need meat, the more the better (meaning raw feeding). Sure, some of what you want to feed has a small amount of protein, but nothing compared to real meat.





Be vegetarian yourself, that is fine, but restricting your dog of that necessity is really cruelty.





Please, get her onto a good kibble and meat. Raw food, bones, a good quality dog roll of good meat etc. She needs it.








Also, is she actually eating that crap? Sure, I know dogs that like to eat some of that stuff, eggs, peanut butter, cheese, carrot etc, but as additional parts to the diet, not as all of it. My Lui loves eggs, peanut butter and cheese (avoids carrot and most veges) but if we gave it to him all the time he'd just stop eating it. They need the protein, they need the meat, and please allow her to have it.|||Dogs are not vegetarians. They are carnivores, though they will eat vegetables. And even if they were omnivores, omnivores still need to eat meat.





Dogs eat meat, period. Their digestive systems were designed to eat meat. While they will sometimes eat vegetables, the bulk of their diet should consist of meat.





I don't know where you did your research, but dogs are not omnivores. Dogs are carnivores. That's fact.





If you leave meat out of a dog's diet, you are depriving them of necessary nutrition. They will become malnourished and sick.|||One... dogs are NOT omnivores. Those studies are CRAP. Take any basic biology or anatomy class, and you will see the stupidity of those words. Dogs are CARNIVORES.





Two... Omnivores NEED meat. Animal based protein source. That is why they are OMNIVORES and not HERBIVORES.





Three... that diet is HORRIBLE. Where is the nutrition? Dogs can not digest grains at all. The oats are doing nothing, along with the toast... Dogs have an extremely hard time digesting any other vegetation... the carrots do nothing. All animals are lactose intolerant... the milk does nothing. Eggs are healthy, but RAW, not cooked. The cheese is horrible for your dog. Peanut butter is horrible for dogs... too much salt. Pedigree dog biscuits are made with MEAT, so there goes your vegetarian diet out the window. Granted, it's mainly meat fat and chicken feet, but hey, animal based is animal based.





At least put your poor puppy on puppy food before it dies of malnutrition! Better yet, research a prey model raw diet and feed your dog species appropriate foods!|||i could have answeredd that when i was 3. THEY NEED MEAT dogs are considered omnivores because they eat fruit and veggies if they MUST. that diet is cruel aside from the eggs. you're putting it on a vegetarian diet because you think "killing animals is creul", shut up because if that dog was wild, it wolud scare the animal then make it bleed and sufficate to death. not only that, but the dog is 9 weeks old it needs fat buy some d*mn puppy food and be a good owner please it makes me angry that people are making animals suffer because they think its creul to kill animals for food. one more thing the fact that youre not buying meat is not doing anything. what they do is they (non painfully) kill the cow, take the grade -a meat and sell it, grade-b for fast food, and below that is dog and animal food so they are still killing the animals. and in case you still didnt get the picture, its a horriffic diet for a 9 week old puppy|||I don't know which research you have been looking at, but the definition of omnivore IS NOT:





Omnivore: Omnivores don't have to eat meat, they can survive perfectly well on just vegetables.








And before you start tutting and swearing yet again at someone else giving you the truthful answer, I have spent the last three years studying animal management at college. I may not be an expert yet but I know what an omnivore is.





Omnivores eat both vegetables and meat, it isn't down to the owners discretion. They HAVE to eat both. The diet that you listed may look lovely to you, but the dog needs meat. Meat contains nutrients which they cannot get from vegetables. If you decide to cut meat out of the diet your dog will become malnourished.|||There is research that says a lot of crazy sh*t out there. That doesn't make it right.





Feeding a dog a vegetarian diet is not only irresponsible, it's unethical.





The reason for bad research is corruption, bias, and ignorance. The fact that it happens is inexcusable as far as the scientific community is concerned, but the fact that people just blindly believe it is just plain sad... and slightly terrifying.|||Dogs are NOT omnivores!!!! They ARE carnivores.Their very jaw design, teeth and digestive system tell that loud and clear.. Get this puppy off a vegetarian diet and on to a proper meat diet asp... like immediately!!!


A proper nutritional diet is extremely important for all dogs but especially a growing puppy.





Any so called research that says dogs are omnivores is very, very wrong and should be avoided and put in the discard pile along with all the other garbage!!|||Even IF dogs were omnivores which they are NOT, they would still need MEAT IN THEIR DIET.





Doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are about YOU eating meat, if there is no medical need for it FEED YOUR PUP PROPERLY OR GET A HERBIVORE PET.





Reasons why dogs are NOT omnivores. Opportunistic carnivores who will eat anything when its the difference between life and death yes but NOT omnivores.





Dentition - Dog possess none of the flat molars that omnis(bears and humans for example) have needed for the grinding of plant matter





Saliva - Dogs do not have the enzyme amylase needed to break down starches. Neither do cats. The pancreas of dog has to work overtime to break down the starches found in everyday kibble. Yes dogs have evolved to survive on a variety of things doesn't mean they NEED it.





Gut Bacteria - The Bacteria that resides within herbivores and omnivores needed to break down cellulose walls found in plants ARE NOT FOUND IN DOGS.





Digestive tract - Comparably speaking there is no difference between the digestive tract of dogs versus wolves. Short and compact it is best for a majority meat diet. Their digestives tracts ARE however comparably shorter than than of omnivores such as humans and bears.





So not only is your feeding plan inappropriate for your dog its not even close to be healthy.|||I'm sorry but dogs EAT MEAT and just because you don't want to, doesn't mean you force your pet to not eat meat. They might be able to digest more vegetables, but they NEED MEAT. If you want a vegeterian pet, get a rabbit.





Either feed your dog a proper diet that contains meat, or rehome the dog to someone that knows how to take care of her in the right way. BTW cats HAVE to have meat because there are certain proteins and taurine that are needed in the diet that only come from eating meat - and without it they can go blind or die. Don't be trying to turn your dog into a vegetarian - not unless you want a sick dog in a short time.|||Omnivores are animals that eat grains, veggies, fruits, etc AND MEAT.


Carnivores eat meat.


Herbivores eat plants.





Take a good look at your teeth. Then take a look at your dogs teeth.


Obviously they are different.


People are omnivores, so their teeth have evolved that way, because of the diet.


If dogs were omnivores don't you think their teeth would've evolved the same way?





Dogs=CARNIVORES.


They can live as omnivores, but it MUST include meat!!


Dogs. especially puppies, can seriously DIE if they are not given the proper diet and nutrients.


This puppy is only 9 weeks old, it has a lot of growing to do.


Growing requires the proper nutrients.


Please just put your puppy on a kibble that contains meat. Please..|||Dogs are NOT vegetarians!!! That is animal cruelty. Do not deny it meat. You can be a veg head, but your dog shouldn't be. Look at an adult dog's teeth. Do those look anything like the teeth of a veg animal like a deer or elephant? NO THEY DON'T!! The teeth they have have are for shredding and tearing meat. I've never seen a pack of wolves attack a corn field, have you? There is nothing wrong with giving your dog veggies to supplement and give them vitamins, but it isn't essential. A growing puppy needs animal protein!!! Your puppy is going to have major health problems including bone, joint, vision problems, that is if they don't die in the next few weeks. Omnivore means they can digest both plant and animal mater, but that doesn't mean they can solely live off veggies. So go ahead, kill your puppy.|||i'm sorry but you have to feed your dog meat.. they need the protein and to be healthy.. why the hell do you think they have canines??.. to chew some grass and leaves.. no.. i hope to god you don't have a cat either, your dog is going to be sick and so is your cat (if you have one)..





if you can't feed your dog meat because you are a vegetarian... buy yourself a bird or a Guinea Pig or Rabbit... something that you won't be torturing due to your eating habbits.





ADD: you are simply killing your dog slowly with your shitty eating habbits and thinking it is healthier :) .. who the hell gave you this puppy anyways?.. god just buy your dog some dog food, even if it is cheap, it's better than what you are feedin it anyways!!!!!!





ADD2: btw did you get this information from PETA ??.. PETA should be ashamed to tell you such horrible facts.|||* Dogs are CARNIVORES, in the wild, they do not even eat the intestines of their prey.





* Even omnivores have to eat meat.





* Dogs do not digest grains, such as oats, wheat in toast, because they are designed to digest meat.





* Dogs cannot digest carrots, it will pass right through.





* Eggs are only good raw.





* Cheese is dairy, many dogs are lactose intolerant.|||Its unhealthy for puppies (and dogs) to eat "people food". "Omnivore" means that their diet consists of vegetarian things AND meat. Its one thing to put a grown dog on a vegetarian diet, but a growing puppy really does need dog food and meat.








Goats milk, carrots, eggs toast? that is what you want to feed a puppy? that is not nutritious at all, the only thing is protein rich eggs (which makes their coat shiny too).








there are plenty of good quality dog foods put there, that have vegetarian and meat nutritrition.





Dogs are meant to be carnivores, if you are really that determined to make your pet eat "healthy" than PLEASE for the sake of the poor puppy, give it away, and just buy a rabbit, feed it lettuce and carrots and all the vegetarian 'goodness' that you want.








edit: why are you feeding your puppy six times a day?! three, maybe four meals is all it needs, and they have to be nutritious (which your diet is not) and by the way, most dogs are lactose and intolerant, which means milk, eggs and cheese are no good for them. They also can't digest some of the foods you insist on feeding you puppy.





PLEASE, give away your puppy for a vegetarian rabbit, or learn how to properly feed it.|||There's also research out there that says they are carnivores. Even people who believe dogs are omnivores still know they NEED meat to be healthy.





If you honestly can't stand feeding a dog meat, don't get a dog. That is an extremely unhealthy diet and you will cause great harm to your puppy by feeding it.





Milk? Cheese? Toast? None of those are healthy. The only thing on that list that is an acceptable food is the egg. If you really believe a dog can survive on that food, you need to do a lot more research into canine nutrition.|||No.


An omnivore means an animal eats meat AND grass and crap.


You're talking about a herbivore.


Have fun with a dieing puppy!





Dogs were meant to eat meat.


If you want an animal to be a vegetarian, then get a rabbit.


Do not impose un-naturally diets on your dog(unless in certain occasions, like allergies and etc), which will ultimately end up very sick, deprived from nutrients.|||Wow, even I could eat that. Not a bad diet for a person, but a terrible one for a puppy. I don't care what research you have found that states that dogs do not need meat to be healthy. I'm telling you it's a pile of B/S. Start feeding your dog meat-based kibble unless you want the poor thing to become very ill.





What do you think wild dogs eat? Do you think they eat the apples off the tree? No, they eat DEAD ANIMALS. MEAT.





P.S: "Omnivore" means something that has to eat fruit/veg/beans/whatever AND meat. A herbivore is something that doesn't need meat at all.|||If this is what you plan on feeding everyday, isn't that a lot of eggs. Even people shouldn't have that many eggs and I really question whether or not this will be giving a puppy enough protein to develop properly. Seriously, what is wrong with a good quality dog food. If you make sure it is a higher quality dog food, I would think that would be better for a puppy's growth.





Check out dogfoodanalysis.com to compare the different types of foods out there.|||a dog should not be fed that regular because they will have a problem breaking down fats! and dogs need meat but not only that, dog food has all the specific nutrients and vitamins a dog needs! dogs are not designed to eat gourmet food! i recently thought about cooking my dog human foods as he is the most fussiest eater ever but when i looked into it and sought advice from my behaviourist she did not reccomend it because of all the stuff they need in dog foods! dryer food is better for u if u cant stand meat as it does not smell or look as bad! my partner is vegetarian but she has to put her dogs needs before her own views! deogs that also eat a lot of human food can be prone to diabetes...i have just lost my rescue dog to that because the people who owned him before fed him a poor diet! the thing with internet research is that you will always find one artical saying or showing what you want to see! if i wqas you i would consult with the vet or a dietician!


good luck|||that is a very poor doet for a CARNIVORE





no, dogs are not "omnivores".. they eat meat. They get little to no nutrution from vegetation. Your dog's teeth are not even designed for properly breaking down vegetable matter. They need meat as a main source of protein





The only time wild canids eat vegetation matter would be to maybe stave off hunger until the next meat meal can be found, or sometimes eating stomache contents of prey.. but honestly they often shake out the stomache cotents and wont eat it if they have plenty of meat available.





Dogs are carnivores, not omnivores, and certainly NOT vegetarians!|||Okay, the only reason you said you put her on a vegetarians diet is because of some research that says dogs are "ormnivores", it's actually omnivores. Omnivore means that animal/person/reptile/insect/what have you eats BOTH meat and vegetables. Dogs are carnivores by nature, and yes some do eat vegetables/fruits, but they're still carnivores. You didn't mention it was for any health reasons or anything of that sort. Did you put her on it just because you don't like meat? Because that's not right. I'm not an expert on dogs but your menu does not look too healthy to me. You could just find her high quality dog food that is actually good for her, instead of this.|||Well to be honest, no. Dogs are born hunters and killers so if you want to have a starving puppy, just keep on doing what your doing now and soon enough you will have a malnourished, sick puppy!! But if you are REALLY THAT concerned about your dog eating meat than I highly suggest you just start buying it normal dog kibble or give him/her away. There is no way you could possibly keep a dog on a Veg. diet. And whoever said that they don't "need" meat is TOTALLY WRONG and needs to be slapped stupid and if there "licensed researches", they apparently need there license taken away! Hope you don't kill your dog!|||dogs are NOT omnivores and if they were they would still have to eat meat. you don't see animals like bears just eating leaves. dogs are lactose intolerant, meaning they cant eat dairy. ok they can have cheese but it should be only be used when training, not as a main meal.





ok you dont have to feed your puppy meat. buy it some dog food. it doesnt look like meat and it doesnt smell like meat. just because you are a vegeterian (im assuming you are) you shouldnt force your dog to be one. its like making say a horse eat steak|||Your diet would probably work better for a weanling pig. Pigs are more ormnivorious then dogs. Granted dogs are scavangers and opportunists but given a choice they will choose meat protein over grain protein paws down.





Open your puppy's mouth. See those big sharp looking teeth at the corners of the mouth? There are four of them one in each corner. Know why God put them there? He put them there so that your little puppy could rip and chew meat. That's right meat. Now there are several things wrong with your diet. For one thing it isn't balanced. The calcium appears to be quite high and the phosphorus low or nonexistent. I don't see where the diet gives the dog some of the fat that he will need for a good haircoat. Protien is also too low. I also don't know anything about pedigree milky biscuits. Since you're insistent on feeding this dog vegetarian, why not feed him a vegetarian style kibble. There are many out there and they are properly balanced for a growing puppy.|||If you choose to be vegetarian that's fine, but it is not fair to push your beliefs on an animal that is meant to eat meat. Look at a dog's teeth and tell me they aren't designed to eat meat.





An omnivore is not a herbivore. Omnivores eat plans AND animals. If you are against buying meat to feed your dog, then you shouldn't have bought a dog. That's not fair.





You will never see a dog drool more for a food than they will for meat.|||Dogs are NOT omnivores, they are carnivores.


http://www.rawfed.com/myths/omnivores.ht…


http://www.second-opinions.co.uk/carn_he…


http://www.pinnaclepetsupply.com/omnivor…





Dogs cannot even digest plant matter unless it's pureed first. Their digestive system doesn't break down plant cells.


However, dogs can digest raw bones just fine.





You need to get your dog on a quality dog food or a proper home-done diet like raw.





For choosing quality kibble, here's a few resources:


http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/dog_food_…


http://www.dogfoodproject.com/





For raw feeding, here's a forum post with a collection of resources:


http://www.dogster.com/forums/Raw_Food_D…


.|||Dog eats better then I do... Why would you feed your dog so many eggs??? It's good for their skin, but that baby needs some meat!! Carrot is good for them, and some pedigree biscuts are as well, but that dog needs to be on dog food. There is dog food for a reason. You are going to run into a lot of health problems down the road. Please give this dog to somone who can actually take care of it!|||So go ahead and kill the puppy. See if we care.





You are reading the wrong research. A friend did some of the early research that showed that dogs thrive best on meat and meat products. You have the choice to eat whatever you want, the dog does not. If you really want to learn about dog diets read about BARF and feed the poor puppy a proper diet.|||lol this is the dumbest meal plan i have seen in a while...toast?? oats?? You obviously did not do very mucgh research at all. Dogs are obligate carnivores. There are some yahoos that are convinced for ethical reasons dog should not eat meat, just becuas ethier humans dont eat meat. The reason why so many people have responded to your question is becuase EVERYONE knows dog MUST eat meat..no VEGETABLES!

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